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Published: Thursday, September 25, 2003

Updated: Thursday, March 3, 2011 16:03

Dear Editor,It is amazing to me that pro-Gay rights folks fail to see their own closed-mindedness. It seems to me that individuals with a liberal ideology are open-minded so long as others agree with them. Those with a "religious" worldview are called upon to not "push" their beliefs on others; however, I can't help but think that Marianne and others want to "push" their belief system onto everyone else. These are the same kind of people that want to teach my children from the book Heather Has Two Mommies. It seems that Marianne, and other like her, expect us to reject God and our belief system so that we can give homosexuals a psychological boost. Should we turn away from our beliefs so that homosexuals feel accepted even though they are practicing a deviant lifestyle?

Marianne's level of ignorance regarding religion is mind blowing. In actually, Catholics, Protestants, non-Protestants, and people form all sorts of religious backgrounds view homosexuality as a deviant lifestyle for a variety of reasons. One reason is because God condemns it. As Marianne mentioned, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of its wickedness. Even if he did not condemn the cities because of homosexuality alone, the passage still makes it clear that God views the practice as "wicked" (Genesis 19). 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV) reads, "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

The Biblical argument against homosexuality carries much more weight that an argument based upon feeling, or Sociology. The Biblical argument at least has a basis in antiquity. The Bible stands for itself as being an accurate historical record. Abraham and Lot (the one that lived in Sodom) came from Ur of the Chaldeans (Gen 11:28 NIV) which was known earlier as Sumer, the first civilization, and the place that people began to read and write. Abraham was born around 2165 BC. Followers of Judaism, Christianity and Islam trace their roots to him. Therefore, there is a historical basis for our belief system and it is not subject to change based upon a belief system that you are pulling out of the air.

Another reason that people with a "religious" worldview reject homosexuality is because it doesn't fit with natural law. Dr. Laura Schlessinger (Jewish) took a great deal of heat sometime back for saying that homosexuality was a biological error. However, I think that there could be some truth to the statement, because homosexuals can't reproduce. As some have said before, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." Even if you approach the subject as an Atheist, you must admit that homosexuality doesn't fit with natural selection.

Another reason that many people reject homosexuality and the homosexual agenda is because the argument itself is unreasonable. The arguments that are made in support of homosexuality could also be made for all kinds of deviant behavior. Should we abandon all convictions, and all morality? Should we accept, as the Man Boy Love Association suggests, sexual relations between men and boys, as long as they love each other? What about sex with animals? Isn't that okay too, as long as a woman really loves her horse? What if people started saying that adults should have sex with children to help them not have sexual hang-ups when they are grownups? After all, they would just be looking out for the best interest of the child. If you think that this is extreme, why? How is this sort of reasoning different from yours? All kinds of things have been practiced through the ages, even since the days of Sodom and Gomorrah (4000 BC).

It isn't a matter of hate, or a matter of fear. I don't hate homosexuals, and I'm not afraid of them. It's a matter of morality and conviction. I don't hate homosexuals, prostitutes, or anyone else. Jesus (God in the flesh) died on the cross for the sins of the world, including homosexuals, and the Bible says that anyone that accepts His sacrifice for their sins can have a new life (John 3:16). It is my desire that everyone come to know Him; however, I really wish that the pro-Gay crowd would stop trying to shove their beliefs down my throat.

Craig Davis

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Mon Feb 17 2014 01:56
Consent. Children and animals cannot consent, it's called rape (something that's not mentioned in the 10 commandments)
Henry Juhala
Fri Jul 19 2013 01:39
And please stop bearing false witness and shoving your pharisaic legalism down other people's throats. Please stop bearing false witness about what the Bible does and does not say about homosexuality. Please stop bearing false witness about what science and medicine has to say about homosexuality. Please stop bearing false witness about what the rights of gays and lesbians are under the Constitution. We all know it is against the 10 Commandments to bear false witness against your neighbors - including your gay and lesbian neighbors.

Now, let's look at what the Bible actually says about abomination and homosexuality. Let's begin with Leviticus. Leviticus is NOT talking about gay relationships as we know them and has nothing to do with gays loving in committed and responsible relationships of the 21st Century.

The Hebrew word used for "abomination" is "Toebah" . Where it is used in the Bible it almost always had a religious idol worship connotation. In Deut 7:25 Jews are not to worship or have anything to do with carved idols of Egyptians and Canaanite cults whose temples surrounded them. That was an abomination. In Deut 12:31 those cults practiced worship of their gods by sacrificing babies at their altars as part of their fertility god or goddess worship.

The role of the Canaanite or Egyptian cultic priest in this was sexual in nature. They often had sex with cult worshippers as part of their ritual practice. In Deut 23:17-19 Israelites were prohibited from any association with these cultish worship practices because they were an abomination. That is what was going on when the children of Israel made themselves a golden calf in Ezekial 32.

In Ezekial 21 it talks about the fertility god Molech. He was part man's body with the head of a calf. He was a male god to be worshiped by males -- including sexually. So in Lev 18:22 NKJV where it says 'You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination" it is talking specifically about having sex in the cult temple with the god Molech (or his priest) as part of the worship practice to Molech.

The Bible makes it clear the admonition is for priests and their worshippers having sex as part of cultish temple worship practices. That is all. It has nothing to do with loving, committed same-gender relationships or even anything to do with gays not even in relationship, To say otherwise is abuse of the Bible. In fact, it is bearing false witness against what is contained in the Word of God and against your gay and lesbian neighbors. That IS against the 10 Commandments.

Similarly Paul uses the word Arsenakoitai in 1 Corinthians and Timothy for the word translated as homosexual (which was not a common word until the late 1800s. It wasn't even in the original KJV ). Arsenakoitai refers to cultish male temple prostitutes just as Leviticus referenced. If Paul wanted to condemn gays in general he would likely use other words more common to the Romans and Greeks. But, he purposely uses a word that cross-connects to the same religious cultish practice as the Old Testament condemns. As such, that condemnation is very limited and narrowed to a specific sexual cultish act. It has absolutely nothing to do with loving same-gender relationships or even of anyone non-sexual but still gay or lesbian.

However Christian's blanket condemnation of gays does not take that into account. Acculturated religious and political animus against gays is what is really condemning gays -- not the Bible. Most Christians are condemning gays based on what they learned in their own cultural circles -- not what the Bible actually says.

If anything, it is an abomination to worship legalistic religious practice like the religious right does. In doing so, they sacrifice their own gay sons and lesbian daughters at the altar of their own small 'g' gods. That also includes the small "g" god they worship of one-man and one-woman marriage. It is evident all over the platforms of the religious right politicians in the GOP who claim to be Christian and claim to represent a Christian nation -- even though I don't see any of that as a requirement to being a Christian and worshiping Him with all your heart, soul, mind and spirit. All I see that is needed to come to the Table of the Lord and worship him is belief in a gospel that is founded on Christ's life, death and resurrection. That is all. Nothing more is required.

Thu Jul 18 2013 16:09
You couldn't have said it better! I can't stand that it seems nowadays this stuff is being SHOVED down our throats and that if you believe in God and the word of God and have faith, and if you speak up about this, then you are considered 'mean' or a 'hater' or whatever. Like you said, don't people understand that we are NOT going to go against God just because it's more accepted nowadays... just because for whatever crazy reason, homosexuality has become almost 'fashionable'. We don't hate, we aren't scared of homosexuals... but we do disagree with their lifestyle and the fact that they have chosen to go against the word of God. And what you said in your second to last paragraph about deviant behaviour and where do we draw the line... perfect! How right you are. I wish more people like you would stand up for standing for good instead of evil. For standing for what's right instead of wrong or fashionable! I applaud you Craig Davis. I wish I knew more people like you. Excellently written.
Thu Jul 18 2013 15:59
I completely agree with your post. Good for you for writing it! :)

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